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04/03/24 02:40 PM #3468    

 

William Nelson

Mostly for Jim,

Congratulations on hitting another milestone. We share the same date, but I'm a year older than you. What really makes me feel old is our daughter will hit a milestone in a couple of weeks; She was born when I was 21. Yesterday, she posted a Facebook Memory picture of the two of us hugging, with a caption, "You were 8-years younger on this picture than I am now. How can that be?" What made us laugh was Mary noticed I was wearing the same shirt yesterday as on that picture!

My 81st was much more subdued than my 80th, when the entire family and lots of friends appeared out of nowhere to yell, "Surprise!" It surely was. My dad died at 75 and his last few years were pretty rough. Never thought I'd get beyond that, but here we are!

Our eldest son retired from the U.S. Air Force Reserve about 4 years ago after 20+years, and then retiried from the Mukwonago Police department a year later. He had heart valve surgery a couple of weeks ago, so he's taking it easy these days but doesn't like it. He told us, years ago, that he probably wouldn't reach 65, but we hope he's wrong. His little grandsons keep him entertained now. 
Our niece and nephew were in the Conntinentals several years ago; Dori Jo and Sven Nelson. They're younger than us and lived in Sun Prairie back then. They loved the experience. She's now a music teacher in Idaho and also has a crafting vlog.( Is that the proper term?)

Enjoy your 81st year and many more. You keep us all entertained.


04/03/24 03:01 PM #3469    

 

Nancy Davison (Boerger)

Congratulations Jim! We hope your cake didn't burn down the house.

You ask,"Now what? ". Good news - there is life after 80. Karsten hits 83 this Christmas Day, and people are amazed when they learn how old he is. Having survived bombs in Germany, revolutions in Venezuela, some close calls in 3rd world countries involving plane crashes (missed that flight, thank goodness!) and assasinations (RIP, Indira), he's still alive and kicking. Okay, maybe a little slower than 50 years ago, but hey.....

Loved  your reminiscences about the Continental band. How I would have loved playing music in a group, although orchestra would have been the first choice. Somehow, my music lessons were on the accordion - played a mean "Lady of Spain".

Enjoy your  80's. We hope to be congratulating you on your 90th.


04/11/24 07:03 PM #3470    

 

Garry Sellers

Not sure where else to write this but I was contacted recently by Patty O'Connor Taylor, one of our classmates who only recently stumbled across this website.  I'm sure all the craziness of the website might be a bit much for somebody who hasn't heard from us in 62 years!  In any case, Patty was nice enough to point out that we have Judy "Holbing" down as a missing classmates.  She points out it is most likely Judy Halbling, who Patty knew passed away many years ago during child birth.  Sorry.  Had to write it someplace.  But let's welcome Patty to the party!  Jump in Patty ... the water is ... probably poluted!!!


04/11/24 08:55 PM #3471    

 

Jim Cejka

Yawnnnn

Ho Hummm

March Insanity (aka Madness) lasted until April, but it's finally over. . . 

The Sun/Moon thing is over. . . 

Things are quiet. 

Ahhhhhh.


04/12/24 01:37 PM #3472    

 

Terri Levenhagen (Hoornstra)

And hopefully, if not over yet, TAXES will be over! What will we do with all this new-found freedom? Garry, thanks for posting about Judy Halbing - I remember her and was wondering what she was doing. So sad to hear that report.

 


04/13/24 05:57 PM #3473    

 

Jim Cejka

Terri,


04/27/24 12:28 AM #3474    

 

Bonnie Buck (Walter)

Enjoyed catching up on the message forum!  

Garry - Thanks for keeping the Custer website going.  I thoroughly enjoyed the t-shirt sayings, you are clever and funny as always.  And yes, you did a good job with mine.

Jim - I am a Swiftee, but what I liked best about the Super Bowl was the ad where a man was looking at a portrait of Taylor Swift and saying he adored her, that he was a Swiftee.  But then he stated this is the Super Bowl and I'm a 49er fan, dumping the picture into the wastebasket!!

What I am encountering as we age, is 4 close girlfriends/relatives having dementia or Alzheimers.  Losing them bit by bit is so sad.and difficult.  I attended a wedding in Wisconsin in early April and sat next to Ken's sister at dinner.  Usually we chat up a storm, but she barely said a word.  sad


05/07/24 04:52 PM #3475    

 

Jim Cejka

While were all agog over this being 80 thing, I noticed the other day that it brings with it a few other milestones, which I haven’t decided are good or not.

 

I had a couple of doctor appointments last Thursday (That in itself is a new milestone - more of those.), and both of them, when going over tests and planning ahead, remarked that “at your age, we don’t do those any more.” Should I be happy - fewer needle sticks, or OMG, why, what’s the use?

 

Is a puzzlement.

 


05/08/24 01:57 PM #3476    

 

Terri Levenhagen (Hoornstra)

How can I be sad about no more mammoograms or colonoscopies? I guess we're at the age where "something's going to get us"! I replace those tests with meditation/prayer, tai-chi and exercise and hope for the best. 


05/12/24 02:49 PM #3477    

 

Jim Cejka

Agreed Terri,

The poking and prodding I can do without, although the drugs they give you for some of those things are worth it.

My complaint is the way they suddenly personalize it - "At YOUR age - blah blah blah." They. make it sounds like it's MY fault. "YOUR" age - there's other people the same age - greater powers than me have let me live this long, it's HIS fault (problem?), I only went along for the ride. 

I never heard that reference when I was growing up for other milestones - "At YOUR age, you can get a job, drive a car, go to Vietnam, . . . ." The magic number was never pointed out so bluntly. 

Or maybe it was, and I was too young to realize it.

And Garry, when I saw that cartoon mentioned "clean living," I of course thought of you right away. 


05/13/24 01:33 PM #3478    

 

Garry Sellers

Yeah Jim - Good clean living ... that's how we made it this far.  Wasn't it Shelly Berman who immortalized the Custer motto:  "Clean mind, clean body .... take your pick!"  Or was that Camp Granada?
 
Maybe it's good to not have things being poked into areas that are better left alone but I miss some old time doctoring. (As a corpsman you did you own fair share of poking, didn't you?) I had an internist who was also one of the directors of a renowned medical organization with which he was associated.  I set up an executve health audit for my company with him.  I saw him for 30+ years.  He retired to go play piano in a jazz quartet, to be replace by a young, lady Indian physician.  Plenty smart, efficient ... and has missed on 3 out of 4 things I went to her for.  It now takes me 2 - 3 months to get an appointment to see her, yet alone any specialist she may refer me to.  If I get sick or injured, it's 4+ hours in an Urgent Care facility with a doctor who I will never see again and is working grueling 12 hour shifts! (I usually get them at the end of the their shifts!)  Gives me an opportunity to be exposed for hours in a waiting room full of unimaginable germs, blood, tired sad children, irrate parents and immigrants who have no understanding of the medical system.
 
I don't suppose I'm gonna see a house visiting doc very soon, huh?

05/13/24 06:35 PM #3479    

 

Barbara Blair (Brenzel)

I had a house visiting doctor when I was a Sophomore - I think that he was the last one!!

Barb


05/14/24 12:43 PM #3480    

 

Terri Levenhagen (Hoornstra)

Wow! You described today's medical scene to a "T", Garry. There's one exception, though - 3 days ago I received an "invitation" to get jabbed with the latest Covid booster, and I'm actually going in today. I guess when it prevents you from having to avail themselves of their services, they're happy to see you.


05/15/24 04:21 PM #3481    

 

Jim Cejka

OK, Where’s Dr. Welby when we need him. But, you guys are right.

 

I was fortunate, in some previous life, to work for a medical company and teach in hospitals around the world (I taught Dr. Barnard, the guy who did the first heart transplant in South Africa, how to do an EKG.) They were often good, state-of-the-art, places, dedicated and knowledgable staffs. I couldn’t help thinking at that time (1980s), that the U.S. had all these big, beautiful hospitals, super doctors and nurses, technology galore, . . . and one of the worst delivery system in the world. In just about every country, the people had universal health care, the only roadblocks were distances and transportation. Some had combination of basic universal care and insurance, any way, any how, the care was there. 

 

Not us, not even today, 40 years later. We have to have INSURANCE. When we were young and working, we had, if we were lucky, a job that provided it. We never thought about the fact that our employer, or union, gave us coverage from the lowest bidder. We had INSURANCE. Of course, you could always buy your own, which could be a choice between INSURANCE or food. Then we got old, we qualified for Medicare. Some kind of basic INSURANCE, that was good, but we still have to pay deductibles, and a deduction from our Social Security income, and buy an alphabet of extra coverage plans for the really bad stuff, drugs, etc., and still pay for whatever isn’t covered. And again, coverage or Corn Flakes.

 

And, with the demise of the family doctor, we have to navigate between HMOs and PPOs, in/out of networks, and whether the doctor we want to see, or the closest facility, accepts whatever plan(s) we may have. 

 

One of my sons, when he was teaching in Japan, needed major surgery on his knee. Total cost, hospital, surgery, rehab = $75. Another son, and his wife, who now live in Norway, can easily and quickly get a medical appointment, see the doctor, be treated, and no costs. Both got excellent care.

 

Somehow, somewhere, in our U. S. rights of “life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. . .,” 

we have subtracted the expectation of good health from the “life” and “happiness” part.


05/16/24 08:12 AM #3482    

 

Nancy Davison (Boerger)

 

Jim, our older daughter’s experience has been similar to your son’s regarding medical treatment in foreign lands. She needed care for a minor ailment in, of all places, a small and remote village in Georgia (not Savannah, but the old USSR one) while there studying their music. Top notch care, and the bill was almost nothing!
 And then there is the insurance issue. It took months, including multiple phone calls, repeated relating of the problem, hours of waiting on “hold”, and several repeat filling out of the same form, to finally arrive at even a hope for reimbursement for care related to the Influenza A and Covid that we contracted somewhere along the coast of Chile in February. After all this, we will now wait months for the company, which had somehow lost or misfiled all the info, to review the claim.
 
All this frustration, without the time constraints of a job and children, or the marginal English skills or intellectual challenges which burden some hapless coverage applicants. And some haven’t the other vital factor - a healthy dose of perseverance. 

05/18/24 12:51 PM #3483    

 

Jim Cejka

Yeah Nancy, 

Our system is a mess. It's like wrestling octopuses (octopi). The problem with the problem is that we don't trust anybody, i.e., the government, to fix the problem. Systems work in other countries, they're plenty of good models out there, but the octopus creature has way too many arms and fingers, and politicians, in the pot to work together for a solution.


05/19/24 07:01 PM #3484    

 

Jim Cejka

Hey - really cool

Turner Classic Movies (one of the few tv channels I watch) is about to show "The Muppets Take Manhattan."

Now that's a classic - take that Maltese Falcon, take that Bogie, take that Orson. . . 


05/28/24 07:21 PM #3485    

 

Jim Cejka

Is my age or stick-in-the-mudness showing? Memorial Day is May 30 - no matter what day they say it is. 

 

I remember (At least I think I remember - not too sure of that nowadays either.) being in Custer’s band, and the CONNtinentals, and marching/playing at various cemetery and Memorial Day events. March up, play a song or two, maybe the trumpets would play taps, then hustle unto the busses and off to do it someplace else, and someplace else, and someplace else. Never got to see or hear much of the other ceremonial stuff, all I remember of them was a bunch of old guys (the veterans) with their flags and shooting the gun salutes.

 

Then, 25-30 years ago, I was commander of the American Legion post in East Troy, and I had to give the Memorial Day speech. I suddenly realized, now I was one of those old guys, I was a real veteran. Memorial Day became much more meaningful, personal then, and has stayed that way with me ever since. 

 

I still have that speech (the local paper actually published it later). I made a program a bit ago that I’ve now shown at the USS Hornet Museum in Oakland, and several Vet Centers, and showed it at my church last Sunday. It still gives me goosebumps. .

 

I wonder too, if my son, who’s a CPO in the Coast Guard, will someday realize that he’s one of those “old guy” veterans, and appreciate Memorial Day for what it is supposed to be. 

 


06/01/24 10:58 PM #3486    

 

William Nelson

Our daughter forwarded this yestereday via Facebook. I recall an earlier article about this project, but it was still in the planning stages, as I remember. It appears to have come to fruition now. We just hope the neighborhood has reverted to its relatively peaceful past. 

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06/05/24 09:20 PM #3487    

 

Jim Cejka

OK, Bill. That sounds cool - in a way.

Somehow I just can't imagine living in Miss Kapp's room. A class hour was enough. 


06/06/24 02:57 PM #3488    

 

Garry Sellers

Some of my older brothers and sisters went to the "old Custer", a.k.a. Edison (I had 8 of them!).  You mention Miss Kapp, who underneath it all I believe was a very caring person.  But you just wonder what residual energy could exist in a building that saw so many "stories" and experiences as a high school/ jr. high building.  It's like today, June 6th, D-Day.  In my trips to Normandy you'd think you'd feel something related to what terror the spirits of the young boys and who knows how many civilians experienced that day.  I certainly think there is some form of energy in the American cemetery at Normandy ... but is it just energy coming from within me?  Well ... we have a guideline that says let's not discuss religion but it's an interesting conjecture, is there anything in the idea of a location having an "energry"?  I'd nominate any "Custer" building as having "something" we left behind.


06/07/24 05:54 AM #3489    

 

Jim Cejka

Garry,

May the Force be with you.


06/07/24 01:40 PM #3490    

 

Garry Sellers

Thank you Yoda!


06/21/24 12:14 PM #3491    

 

Terri Levenhagen (Hoornstra)

Here's another interesting news video and article about the transformation of Edison into senior housing. Sent to me by Sally Strand.
https://www.cbs58.com/news/its-been-a-waste-of-space-former-mps-middle-school-transformed-into-housing-for-seniors

 


06/21/24 04:26 PM #3492    

 

Jim Cejka

Is there any link or conspiracy theory or anything that it seems more than coincidence that they're converting OUR old school into SENIOR housing in the year that we all reach 80?


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